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Offline emarsh

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Drag shock?
« on: November 11, 2005, 10:03:35 AM »
I've not had much success running my 60" turbo as a street/strip bike and am kicking around the idea of converting it to a race bike that I might ocassionally take out on the street. I don't expect to be making a lot of changes. I'm thinking of a low profile pan, a lockup clutch, a change of gearing, some weight up front and a co2 source for my wastegate controller. I'm working on a budget so my big focus is to get the bike to ET with the amount of power I've currently got before I get too excited about kicking the boost up some more.

One thing that I'm curious about is the benifit of a real drag shock over my stock shock. Is it worth the money to buy an Olin drag shock? How about a revalved stock shock? What sort of improvements can I expect to see?

I know the big boys say that the shock is what makes all the difference but I'm not nearly at that level so I have to wonder if this is something I should consider or if I should be worring about that further down the road.
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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2005, 11:09:18 AM »
A GSXR1000 shock from the earlier models works very nicely - has 5 more adjustments on it top and bottom...

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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2005, 04:12:10 PM »
yes there is a big difference. Question is do you feel the need to spend he money to see it.
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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2005, 04:46:14 PM »
I'm interested in hearing more details on the real benefits of a good shock as well...  $1200 is a lot of cake for me...

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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2005, 06:46:40 PM »
more adjustment than a factory shock that is revalved. You will not see one person running a revalved shock in any PRO class. Thats the difference. A PRO will look for the smallest adjustment that might net him the extra edge.

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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2005, 10:29:14 PM »
But why  is it better?  different rate on compression with adjustability? controlling the rebound?
Is this a benefit for the weekend warrior/novice?
Big improvement or mostly for more advanced applications????

I have been thinking the same thing as emarsh, but not sure if there's other things I should be spending money on first???

Thanks for any input Seb.

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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2005, 11:48:06 PM »
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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2005, 12:02:58 AM »
compression, rebound, shock travel, spring rate, etc   its a custom shock set up for a particular application. A drag shock wont be good for a road race bike. Like I said....if your searching for or will be searching for the most and afteremarket setup with all the adjustments is the way to go. Is it for the weekend warrior...weell thats up to you .

Would be like saying is getting an aftermarket chip for my vette worth it? To some it is because there is defenitaly and difference and to its not as they dont really need it or want it.

DO I have a aftermarket shock...yes. Do I need one? Yes. 

Its all money, just a matter of if you wanna spend it on this item. Control is power....  getting it to the ground is just as important as making it.

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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2005, 07:46:24 AM »
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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2005, 10:58:39 AM »
So what sort of improvements in ET could I expect to see from a premium shock over a properly setup stocker?
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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2005, 03:03:43 PM »
A high dollar shock isn't going to just add to your performance.  Having the knowledge to utilize its ability/features will.

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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2005, 04:10:47 PM »
A high dollar shock isn't going to just add to your performance.  Having the knowledge to utilize its ability/features will.


Sounds like it would be a waste of my money at this point of the game then.
Red/gray turbo 1397 Busa for the track.
Black stock ZX14 for the street

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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2005, 07:26:13 PM »
i have seen more then one bike do a major turnaround at the track from a shock. turbo is a tough beast to tame at the track. any possible adjustment you can gain, grab it. i will be sending mine out. curious about the 1000 shock. might be a nice one to get revalved. what you think Seb?
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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2005, 04:32:37 PM »
I'll keep my stocker....... :lol:
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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2005, 07:29:47 PM »
I HAVE SEEN REVALVED STOCK SHOCKS WORK WONDERS TOO. CHEAP

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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2005, 09:57:36 PM »
a pro will buy a aftermarket shock

the weekend warrior will buy the revalved stock shock. When we revalve the stock shocks we put them back in a range where they work due to the increased leverage that is put on them due to long arms and being lowered.

Ive used hayabusa shocks on 1000 with great results.

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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2005, 10:00:25 PM »
i guess im a pro now thanks seb

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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2005, 10:13:55 PM »
a pro will buy a aftermarket shock

the weekend warrior will buy the revalved stock shock. When we revalve the stock shocks we put them back in a range where they work due to the increased leverage that is put on them due to long arms and being lowered.

Ive used hayabusa shocks on 1000 with great results.

So what would it cost for a revalved stock shock?
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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2005, 10:16:06 PM »
Would you use a 1000  shock on a busa with a 600 arm or a busa shock
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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2005, 10:17:12 PM »
did you mean 1000 shock on hayabusa with good results ? :?
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Re: Drag shock?
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2005, 05:07:35 PM »
your welcome :D

revalved busa shock on a 1000.