I am looking for 165 to 170 RWHP out of the box; around 12 more with a pipe and tuning module; and another 12 with cams, headwork and pistons..........compression ratio only. Low 190's to mid 190's with all the above and using pump gas and SAE. Add 10 more for STD and oxy fuel. In my view, the wild card is the stock head, valves and cam combination.