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Offline Slo Rob

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Dual Nozzle Placement
« on: December 08, 2006, 07:46:38 PM »
Okay, Fellas, here's what I got. I have a 2lb bottle, NX solenoid, braided lines, (2) fan nozzles (The tops are cut off so it sprays straight up), .28 jets and an MPS Fast FI box. The nozzles are pointing straight up and one is place between the 1 and 2 stacks  and the other is placed between the 3 and 4 stacks.

Here's my problem. I started spraying in third gear right at 6000 r.p.m. and it wasn't very noticable. I tried 2nd and it hit a lil better. I took the air filter out and sprayed with the bike not running. It sprays, but doesn't cut off IMMEDIATELY after the button is released.

Now, here are my questions. Should it be hitting harder than "not very noticable" in third? Should I get new nozzles (since I cut the tips off the old ones) and change there locations? Could it be a bad solenoid problem?

Sorry for the stupid questions, but I'm a "Nitrous Newbie."

Thanks in advance for your help.

Rob

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2006, 08:07:57 PM »
where is your solenoid loc at?

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2006, 08:40:47 PM »
when you let off the button,that is when the solinoid closes,but it takes a second for the pressurized gas to escape the lines

your nozzle location is one that i am not familiar with

i run 2 nozzles,1 in each air intake,with .028 jets......and it hits so hard in 2nd ( 7k ) that i can't put it into words

do you have a pressure gauge ?

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2006, 09:13:34 PM »
Not hitting hard....... whats your bottle pressure?

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2006, 07:34:25 AM »
I believer the bottle pressure is between 700-800lbs.
The solenoid is right in front of the battery.

I think I might try new nozzles (since I cut the tops off the ones I have now) and move them into the ram air tubes. Where on the ram air tubes would be the best place for them?

Any other suggestions?

Thanks for the help again, guys.

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2006, 08:10:11 AM »
 the bottle pressure needs to be atleast 900
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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2006, 09:34:00 AM »
what part of the country are you in ? if it's cold where you are b/p will be low if the bottle is full or not

if you have a digital bathroom scale,plop the bottle on there and see what you get  :lol: if it's 4 or less it's empty

here is how i have my nozzles mounted,just pop the tank to change jets







the pics aren't the best,but you get the idea

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2006, 07:32:56 PM »
Im in that part that sells bottle warmers. Where u? Ive never seen nos run right no matter how full the bottle is if the pressure isnt right.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2006, 07:35:44 PM by Treysbusa »
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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2006, 08:35:43 PM »
Im in that part that sells bottle warmers. Where u? Ive never seen nos run right no matter how full the bottle is if the pressure isnt right.
my comment was not directed at you,i was just trying to give slo rob some info
« Last Edit: December 09, 2006, 08:38:10 PM by chevelle »

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2006, 10:44:54 AM »
line length will have an effect to.  Put the solenoid closer to nozzels with as short of line as you can get to fit.

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2006, 10:25:41 PM »
Thanks, Guys. I think I'm going to try moving my nozzles and a bottle warmer.
Anyone know where I can get a good bottle warmer for a 2lb bottle? I saw one on the NOS website with some kind of safety valve (or something like that) that was preset to 900lbs. for like $155.
Does that sound reasonable and does that thing cut off once it reaches 900lbs of pressure?

Thanks again for the help, guys.

Rob

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2006, 10:28:07 PM »
what part of the country are you in ? if it's cold where you are b/p will be low if the bottle is full or not

if you have a digital bathroom scale,plop the bottle on there and see what you get  :lol: if it's 4 or less it's empty

here is how i have my nozzles mounted,just pop the tank to change jets


I'm in NW Georgia. It was kinda cold when I was trying to spray. Somewhere in the mid 50s to low 60s.

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2006, 10:35:22 PM »
Thanks, Guys. I think I'm going to try moving my nozzles and a bottle warmer.
Anyone know where I can get a good bottle warmer for a 2lb bottle? I saw one on the NOS website with some kind of safety valve (or something like that) that was preset to 900lbs. for like $155.
Does that sound reasonable and does that thing cut off once it reaches 900lbs of pressure?

Thanks again for the help, guys.

Rob
For sure go with an ARC pressure activated heater. I have one and love it. Fully adjustable too. Check it out here: http://www.mpsracing.com/products/ARC/heater.asp

I have this one: http://www.mpsracing.com/images/products/ARC/AN_3127dwk.bmp

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2006, 04:08:43 PM »
2 .28 JETS on dry shot is what shot about? and anyone know where i can get some of the black plastic line and fittings to plumb my other nozzle?
it looks like cheap plastic tube but havent looked at it very close yet

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2006, 04:36:56 PM »
depending on the set up,probably mid 50's

you can get the nos brand nitrous line and ferrils at any speed shop,car or bike
they come in 10,15 and 20 ft lengths

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2007, 04:05:32 PM »
2 .28 JETS on dry shot is what shot about? and anyone know where i can get some of the black plastic line and fittings to plumb my other nozzle?
it looks like cheap plastic tube but havent looked at it very close yet

Thanks
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Israel, be careful with that large of a dry shot... the area of two .028 jets is substantially larger than one .056 jet.... do the math....

 http://www.mathsisfun.com/area-calculation-tool.html

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2007, 04:27:39 PM »
Two .028's is about the same as a single .040

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2007, 11:06:41 AM »
Two .028's is about the same as a single .040

how can this be? two .028's would be the same as a .056 right? and two .020's the same as a .040, etc. im just asking.

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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
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Re: Dual Nozzle Placement
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2007, 12:46:44 PM »
SWEET. Thanx.