BUSA vs. ZX14 - what does 50cc's?

[denise richards]

8.7S WITH BOLTONS THATS SOMETHING EVEN STAGE1 TURBOS DONT RUN:shock:

TRAPSPEEDS 150+

Superstreetbike got a Busa with simlar mods into the 8's not that long ago.  Still impressive as hell though.  I will say it's much closer than I thought, I figured for sure it would be a much more one sided event.

BEFORE THE BS GETS TOO DEEP,THEY USED A 30SHOT ON THAT BUSA

8.7s is flat out insane.
how many turbo(st 1)guys ran that?even slammed and stretched?

[flfiremedic]

Go back and look at the stock numbers.  Kawai spent how much for THOSE gains!  Who in their right mind is gonna drop another $11K for that kind of gain.  Keep the busa spend $1K or so and get the same gain.  With those numbers, its gonna be the rider not the brand.  And I still say give em both 3 or 4 thousand to spend on mods and then be the judge.  Those numbers don't even really qualify for bragging rights.

[02SE]

8.7S WITH BOLTONS THATS SOMETHING EVEN STAGE1 TURBOS DONT RUN:shock:

TRAPSPEEDS 150+

Superstreetbike got a Busa with simlar mods into the 8's not that long ago.  Still impressive as hell though.  I will say it's much closer than I thought, I figured for sure it would be a much more one sided event.

BEFORE THE BS GETS TOO DEEP,THEY USED A 30SHOT ON THAT BUSA

No they didn't. 

The Superstreetbike article, was a comparison of the 'Busa, and GSXR1000, each with the same bolt-on mods. Pipe, Power Commander, extended arms, -1 tooth on front sprocket, lowered.

The Rider was Larry Laye. The Busa made it into the 8's, W/ 151+ mph trapspeed. The GSXR didn't make it into the 8's.

Stock motors, no nitrous.

[Twisted]

and all this is related to the 14 how? 

[Neighborhood Creep]

from kawasakis website...

Welcome to the leading edge of power, performance and exhilaration. Kawasaki is passionate about motorcycles. It’s who we are, and what we do!

Ninja®ZX™-14
If high-performance sportbikes are your passion, then we’ve got just the street-carver for you. Introducing, the new Ninja ZX-14, our most powerful sportbike ever at 1,352cc.

The blending of form, power, and handling characteristics deliver a debut motorcycle that is so balanced in all aspects, the word “ultimate” barely seems adequate when describing it.

This all new in-line four has evolved from the ZX-12R and features a bore and stroke of 84mm x 61mm packed into a purposefully designed compact package that minimizes engine width, leaving it at virtually the same width as the 12R.

The engine uses a secondary balancer to tame unwanted vibrations, and a direct-actuation shift lever is lighter than conventional linkage-type set-ups, offering a more direct feel for the rider.

The ZX-14’s chassis design is every bit the equal of its power plant. It is an advanced version of Kawasaki’s unique aluminum monocoque frame -- lightweight and very strong.

Offering a very relaxed sport riding position, it is compact without being cramped. The foot pegs are low-set to give ample leg room, and the low seat height and narrow seat front make planting feet on the ground a cinch when stopped. Available Spring 2006.


now do they not claim this bike is a "sportbike" or a "sport touring" bike?

my point is they advertise it as something its not!!!

"The blending of form, power, and handling characteristics deliver a debut motorcycle that is so balanced in all aspects, the word “ultimate” barely seems adequate when describing it."

if this bike is so "ultimate" why would it be unfair to run it against a puny little underpowered literbike?

also they don't say jack about 1/4 mile times or even attempt to claim any type of prowess on the strip.....

its fucking junk, and I cant wait till Baily gets his so I can flood the internet with video of a REAL supersport bike beating that mutt like a red headed step child all over the 206....

have a nice day knucklehead

You must be one bad motherfucker on that gixxer. I bet you can outrun any bike anytime. If you are so good at the track, how come you ain't racing in AMA Superbike? Really, what's your excuse?

[denise richards]

from kawasakis website...

Welcome to the leading edge of power, performance and exhilaration. Kawasaki is passionate about motorcycles. It’s who we are, and what we do!

Ninja®ZX™-14
If high-performance sportbikes are your passion, then we’ve got just the street-carver for you. Introducing, the new Ninja ZX-14, our most powerful sportbike ever at 1,352cc.

The blending of form, power, and handling characteristics deliver a debut motorcycle that is so balanced in all aspects, the word “ultimate” barely seems adequate when describing it.

This all new in-line four has evolved from the ZX-12R and features a bore and stroke of 84mm x 61mm packed into a purposefully designed compact package that minimizes engine width, leaving it at virtually the same width as the 12R.

The engine uses a secondary balancer to tame unwanted vibrations, and a direct-actuation shift lever is lighter than conventional linkage-type set-ups, offering a more direct feel for the rider.

The ZX-14’s chassis design is every bit the equal of its power plant. It is an advanced version of Kawasaki’s unique aluminum monocoque frame -- lightweight and very strong.

Offering a very relaxed sport riding position, it is compact without being cramped. The foot pegs are low-set to give ample leg room, and the low seat height and narrow seat front make planting feet on the ground a cinch when stopped. Available Spring 2006.


now do they not claim this bike is a "sportbike" or a "sport touring" bike?

my point is they advertise it as something its not!!!

"The blending of form, power, and handling characteristics deliver a debut motorcycle that is so balanced in all aspects, the word “ultimate” barely seems adequate when describing it."

if this bike is so "ultimate" why would it be unfair to run it against a puny little underpowered literbike?

also they don't say jack about 1/4 mile times or even attempt to claim any type of prowess on the strip.....

its fucking junk, and I cant wait till Baily gets his so I can flood the internet with video of a REAL supersport bike beating that mutt like a red headed step child all over the 206....

have a nice day knucklehead

You must be one bad motherfucker on that gixxer. I bet you can outrun any bike anytime. If you are so good at the track, how come you ain't racing in AMA Superbike? Really, what's your excuse?

if anyone cares,my personal comments about twisted can be found in smack talk


and some busa guys should finally swallow the bitter pill.something better is out.who cares about 2tenths.ok gadsen says the 14 feels alot quicker.

i might test ride one and see how it does.im not too impressed about any stock bikes acceleration anyway

[Busa@11K]

who fucking said they didn't work as drag bikes? a fucking moped will work as a drag bike...

they are sport touring bikes, kawasaki claims the 14 is a superbike, world SUPERBIKE uses 1000s in the class so does AMA SUPERBIKE, flame kawasaki they said it...

you are trying to turn this into something it isn't, as usual...

my POINT IS, a fucking run on a drag strip don't mean shit! these are road bikes, just like the gixxer, if ricky wants to bring it to a road course I will see what I can do about getting a stock busa to show him WHAT A PIG THE 14 REALLY IS if that will make you happy scotty...

think about it? do you really think kawasaki needs ricky to test the bike? you don't think kawasaki has their own proving grounds? only the largest in the world..

do you really think kawasaki hasn't had the bike on a road course yet? of course they have, and they know the busa will rip it, thats why they brought it to the states and put it on a drag strip before they release the "road" specs, they are looking for a few suckers to buy into it, apparently they found a few....

damn scotty you're behaving just like a fucking woman...

read what kawasaki says about the bike and tell me what YOU think they are saying... fuck me!

http://www.kawasaki.com/product_category.asp?category=2&tag=motorcycle

No wonder you're handle is Twisted ... you're and expert at twisting shit all around.

Repeat this 1000 times:  "The ZX-14 and Hayabusa are not in the same class as liter bikes!"

Also repeat this 1000 times: "The ZX-14 and Hayabusa are in the same class."  Both are big, heavy, fast, ugly (to someone), can be used for touring and handle pretty damn good on the street.

You're reading shit between the lines from Kawasaki ... it's advertising you nut chewer.  I don't see anything in Kawasaki's words that says it's made to compete with liter bikes.  WTF are ya smokin' tonight?  

dood, I will try one more time to explain this to you...

first go to kaws website...

then click on motorcycles...

then click on supersport, you will see the 6, 10, 12, 14 all in this catagory... simple right, its not an advertising scheme, kawasaki taunts the 12 and 14 as a supersport bike, not me!!!

READ WHAT KAWASAKI SAYS ABOUT THE 14!!!! jeeezes are you dense man or what?

also this thread was never about weather or not the literbikes and 14 are in the same class, you created that in your own mind, apparently so you could contradict someone then ridicule them in an effort to make yourself appear intelligent, your turning into a leg humper, what next you gonna join the union too?

you are the one that started in by claiming I was saying things I wasnt saying, shit scotty do you have to pollute every thread you read?

drag racing numbers dont say shit about either of these bikes intended useage!!!!!!!!!!! get that through that brick you call a noggin and quite fucking with every thread you come across!

And so you believe everything Kawasaki says, huh? 

I don't care what frickin' Kawasaki says ... the ZX-14 (and ZX-12 for that matter) is NOT in the same class as their other "supersport" bikes.  Ya see, Kawi is using the term "supersport" to cover them all ... but in reality they are not all in the same class.  Anyone who knows anything about bikes should realize that.  Can you honestly tell me that the GSX-R1000 and Busa are in the same class? ... I doubt it.  If that's the case the the new ZX-14 is not either ... it's in the Busa's class of sportbike.

I thought you were more up on machines than that.   You gonna believe everything Kawi -- or any manufacture for that matter -- says??

If you've been reading and understanding, I've been saying the ZX-14 is a sport-touring bike ... just like the Busa.  It will just happen to also become a good drag bike ... just like the Busa.  Both are in the same class ... both are sport-touring bikes that are NOT in the same class as track breed 600s, 750s and 1000s.  I don't care what Kawasaki fuckin' says on their website ... it's something you can't grasp and believe Kawi because you can't comprehend this concept.

[FastBikes4Life]

I can't wait to see what happens on the streets this Summer. Then we'll see what's really going on. The Hayabusa was surrounded by a lot of hype but it backed up every word. I can't wait to see if the ZX-14 does the same thing. In my personal opinion (based on the fact that virtually all "test" bikes perform much better than the mass production model), Kawasaki riders might be in for closer competition than they think. Like I said, it's all going to be settled on the streets and roadways of America, not on a website.

Get ready Kawasaki, you have 3 months until all of America knows the real deal with the ZX-14. By the way, I'm sure that 187 horses reported at Motorcycledaily.com is at the crank. That means only about 170 to the rearwheel (or less). This only puts the ZX-14 about 10 horses above the Busa. An exhaust and a set of cams will overcome this small problem. Hope Suzuki doesn't realize that. I would hate to see a 1298cc motor beating a 1352cc motor.

Fast

[Gatoracer]

I expected better out of the trq/hp #'s. 

According to Roadracing World magazine, Suzuki will introduce an updated 'Busa as a late '06 or early '07.

I don't care what they've done to the KZ-18... its still a POS kawi.  gotta drop the motor just to get to the plugs???  WTF??  while that in itself isn't a big deal, its indicative of a larger issue.

[Busa@11K]

I don't care what they've done to the KZ-18... its still a POS kawi.  gotta drop the motor just to get to the plugs??? 

Are you serious, or just exaggerating like Twisted? 

[Gatoracer]

No I'm serious.  Had a friend in Savannah with both a Busa and a 12.  he was on the 12 one day and started having some power issues.  we took it to the local dealer but it was closed.  So he started having a look at it. went to check the plugs and couldn't get to all of them.  guess the frame was in the way of the 1 and 4...

Same guy dropped his in a parking lot going 5mph and cracked the paper-thin side cover.  No oil, no ride.  we had to trailer it home.  I low-sided mine on pavement at 60mph and rode it the rest of the weekend.

And yes, I think Kawi's are POS's. 

[gnd111]

You can change plugs without dropping the motor on a 12R....but most shops charge 2 hours labor for a 12R plug change...

[Noumenon]

Suzuki better unveil their new secret weapon ... they knew the ZX-14 was coming a long time ago I'd bet.  New Busa on the horizon to compete IMO.

In the mean time, we'll have to listen to the ZX squirrels enjoy their 4 months of glory.

Let them have thier four months, we had six years. 

[Twisted]

who fucking said they didn't work as drag bikes? a fucking moped will work as a drag bike...

they are sport touring bikes, kawasaki claims the 14 is a superbike, world SUPERBIKE uses 1000s in the class so does AMA SUPERBIKE, flame kawasaki they said it...

you are trying to turn this into something it isn't, as usual...

my POINT IS, a fucking run on a drag strip don't mean shit! these are road bikes, just like the gixxer, if ricky wants to bring it to a road course I will see what I can do about getting a stock busa to show him WHAT A PIG THE 14 REALLY IS if that will make you happy scotty...

think about it? do you really think kawasaki needs ricky to test the bike? you don't think kawasaki has their own proving grounds? only the largest in the world..

do you really think kawasaki hasn't had the bike on a road course yet? of course they have, and they know the busa will rip it, thats why they brought it to the states and put it on a drag strip before they release the "road" specs, they are looking for a few suckers to buy into it, apparently they found a few....

damn scotty you're behaving just like a fucking woman...

read what kawasaki says about the bike and tell me what YOU think they are saying... fuck me!

http://www.kawasaki.com/product_category.asp?category=2&tag=motorcycle

No wonder you're handle is Twisted ... you're and expert at twisting shit all around.

Repeat this 1000 times:  "The ZX-14 and Hayabusa are not in the same class as liter bikes!"

Also repeat this 1000 times: "The ZX-14 and Hayabusa are in the same class."  Both are big, heavy, fast, ugly (to someone), can be used for touring and handle pretty damn good on the street.

You're reading shit between the lines from Kawasaki ... it's advertising you nut chewer.  I don't see anything in Kawasaki's words that says it's made to compete with liter bikes.  WTF are ya smokin' tonight?  

dood, I will try one more time to explain this to you...

first go to kaws website...

then click on motorcycles...

then click on supersport, you will see the 6, 10, 12, 14 all in this catagory... simple right, its not an advertising scheme, kawasaki taunts the 12 and 14 as a supersport bike, not me!!!

READ WHAT KAWASAKI SAYS ABOUT THE 14!!!! jeeezes are you dense man or what?

also this thread was never about weather or not the literbikes and 14 are in the same class, you created that in your own mind, apparently so you could contradict someone then ridicule them in an effort to make yourself appear intelligent, your turning into a leg humper, what next you gonna join the union too?

you are the one that started in by claiming I was saying things I wasnt saying, shit scotty do you have to pollute every thread you read?

drag racing numbers dont say shit about either of these bikes intended useage!!!!!!!!!!! get that through that brick you call a noggin and quite fucking with every thread you come across!

And so you believe everything Kawasaki says, huh? 

I don't care what frickin' Kawasaki says ... the ZX-14 (and ZX-12 for that matter) is NOT in the same class as their other "supersport" bikes.  Ya see, Kawi is using the term "supersport" to cover them all ... but in reality they are not all in the same class.  Anyone who knows anything about bikes should realize that.  Can you honestly tell me that the GSX-R1000 and Busa are in the same class? ... I doubt it.  If that's the case the the new ZX-14 is not either ... it's in the Busa's class of sportbike.

I thought you were more up on machines than that.   You gonna believe everything Kawi -- or any manufacture for that matter -- says??

If you've been reading and understanding, I've been saying the ZX-14 is a sport-touring bike ... just like the Busa.  It will just happen to also become a good drag bike ... just like the Busa.  Both are in the same class ... both are sport-touring bikes that are NOT in the same class as track breed 600s, 750s and 1000s.  I don't care what Kawasaki fuckin' says on their website ... it's something you can't grasp and believe Kawi because you can't comprehend this concept.

dumbass, I am not the one that said the 14 and gixxer were in the same class, you are the one that said I said that, I never did say that, I said if someone wanted to bring the 14 to a track I would pack up my gixxer right now and meet them there so I could show them what a pig the 14 really is....

go on and on and on and on about the fact they are not in the same class, who gives a fuck, no one says they are except you, and kawasaki....

read what they have to say about the bike, then go back and read your silly ass posts and you might catch it...

and pease plese tell me scotty, exactly what "concept" is it I cant grasp because I have a funny feeling I knew more about road racing bikes when I was 14 than you know now?


from kawasakis website...

Welcome to the leading edge of power, performance and exhilaration. Kawasaki is passionate about motorcycles. It’s who we are, and what we do!

Ninja®ZX™-14
If high-performance sportbikes are your passion, then we’ve got just the street-carver for you. Introducing, the new Ninja ZX-14, our most powerful sportbike ever at 1,352cc.

The blending of form, power, and handling characteristics deliver a debut motorcycle that is so balanced in all aspects, the word “ultimate” barely seems adequate when describing it.

This all new in-line four has evolved from the ZX-12R and features a bore and stroke of 84mm x 61mm packed into a purposefully designed compact package that minimizes engine width, leaving it at virtually the same width as the 12R.

The engine uses a secondary balancer to tame unwanted vibrations, and a direct-actuation shift lever is lighter than conventional linkage-type set-ups, offering a more direct feel for the rider.

The ZX-14’s chassis design is every bit the equal of its power plant. It is an advanced version of Kawasaki’s unique aluminum monocoque frame -- lightweight and very strong.

Offering a very relaxed sport riding position, it is compact without being cramped. The foot pegs are low-set to give ample leg room, and the low seat height and narrow seat front make planting feet on the ground a cinch when stopped. Available Spring 2006.


now you are free to add whatever delusional coment you so desire....

but when it comes to road racing, leave it to the people that have been there and done it.....

[bl13r]

good riding rickey g. and good numbers

[Gatoracer]

Oh for crying out loud twisted... isn't there a soap opera somewhere missing a scriptwriter?

Somebody pass him a tampon.

[COLDSTONE1300]

Let them have thier four months, we had six years. 

Ditto. You'd think some people here would be a bit miffed because the Zx-14 isn't beating the busa worse then this. Less the 20hp increase and a few nik's quicker in the 1/4 mile? Ya things change after mods but thats the same with any bike. That bike sohuld be 200rwhp and do atleast 9.4's. If suzuki updates it'll probably be pretty lame to what it Could have been. Probably Same chassis and wheelbase with a bodywork revamp and a 1397 punch up. Maybe heads and cams looked at.

Kawi may be playing cards though and releasing this to see what suzuki answers with. Kawi could answer back with a very sharp ZX-14RR and make this the "touring" model. Have to wait and see. Either way the highways will be a little more interesting now. 

[Busa@11K]

dumbass, I am not the one that said the 14 and gixxer were in the same class, you are the one that said I said that, I never did say that, I said if someone wanted to bring the 14 to a track I would pack up my gixxer right now and meet them there so I could show them what a pig the 14 really is....

go on and on and on and on about the fact they are not in the same class, who gives a fuck, no one says they are except you, and kawasaki....

read what they have to say about the bike, then go back and read your silly ass posts and you might catch it...

and pease plese tell me scotty, exactly what "concept" is it I cant grasp because I have a funny feeling I knew more about road racing bikes when I was 14 than you know now?


from kawasakis website...

Welcome to the leading edge of power, performance and exhilaration. Kawasaki is passionate about motorcycles. It’s who we are, and what we do!

Ninja®ZX™-14
If high-performance sportbikes are your passion, then we’ve got just the street-carver for you. Introducing, the new Ninja ZX-14, our most powerful sportbike ever at 1,352cc.

The blending of form, power, and handling characteristics deliver a debut motorcycle that is so balanced in all aspects, the word “ultimate” barely seems adequate when describing it.

This all new in-line four has evolved from the ZX-12R and features a bore and stroke of 84mm x 61mm packed into a purposefully designed compact package that minimizes engine width, leaving it at virtually the same width as the 12R.

The engine uses a secondary balancer to tame unwanted vibrations, and a direct-actuation shift lever is lighter than conventional linkage-type set-ups, offering a more direct feel for the rider.

The ZX-14’s chassis design is every bit the equal of its power plant. It is an advanced version of Kawasaki’s unique aluminum monocoque frame -- lightweight and very strong.

Offering a very relaxed sport riding position, it is compact without being cramped. The foot pegs are low-set to give ample leg room, and the low seat height and narrow seat front make planting feet on the ground a cinch when stopped. Available Spring 2006.


now you are free to add whatever delusional coment you so desire....

but when it comes to road racing, leave it to the people that have been there and done it.....

Damn it Twisted ... you have really twisted the fuck out it so far that YOU don't even know what we're talking about anymore.

All the way back from page 2 ... then you got off on about 5 tangents and twisted everything up like some super squirrel on a nut binge.    I don't know why you love quoting Kawasaki's website so much ... shit, you'll brainwash youself and end up buying one when they showup at the dealers.

nothing will help the 14 against a gixxer, why do you think they gave a bike to a straight line guy and not the editors of the U.K magazines? why do you think they haven't released the wheelbase and weight numbers?

because they are trying to hype it up with a straight line number in a 1/4 mile then drop the bomb on you after they catch your attention...

As usual, the lack of logic and knowledge shows.  The ZX-14 isn't in the same class as an R1 or GSX-R1000.  It's in the same class as the Hayabusa ... a big sport touring bike.  The Hayabusa is one of the best platforms for a drag bike ... and so will be the ZX-14.  It will probably handle the backroads just as well too.  Kawasaki is going after the Hayabusa's market ... anyone who knows anything about bikes should realize that.

I wish Rickey had the nuts to take that piece of shit to a road course, I would pack up the gixxer right now and meet him there personally just to show him what a fucking pig that thing REALLY is....

Seems you think the ZX-14 should be out on a road course racing a liter bike ... I thought YOU said they weren't in the same class.  If you say/think that, then why do you make it sound like they are?  Get off the hallucinogenic nuts dude! 

Oh for crying out loud twisted... isn't there a soap opera somewhere missing a scriptwriter?

Somebody pass him a tampon.

How about a case of extra absorbant. 

[Twisted]

Oh for crying out loud twisted... isn't there a soap opera somewhere missing a scriptwriter?

Somebody pass him a tampon.

I guess so, I think the name of the script is... as the zx14 turns... I blow by it on my gixxer

someones got to keep scotty in line, he seems to think sportbikes revolve around drag racing(never actually said it, subliminal thing) an drag racers seem to think sportbikes revolve around them, and some fool quoted as saying this...

"The 06 Busa is still a respectable and capable motorcycle!"    

I say hogwash! the busa will crush the pig stock for stock in a comparison conducted in an environment for its intended use....

thats basically all I had to say, scotty lost his top so he decided to spin my posts, nothing new, hes like a pet, he gets on your nerves for a bit but eventually he will go lay down in the corner and lick his nuts...


oh, did I forget to mention, the zx 14 is one of the fugliest bikes I have ever seen... 

[Twisted]

dumbass, I am not the one that said the 14 and gixxer were in the same class, you are the one that said I said that, I never did say that, I said if someone wanted to bring the 14 to a track I would pack up my gixxer right now and meet them there so I could show them what a pig the 14 really is....

go on and on and on and on about the fact they are not in the same class, who gives a fuck, no one says they are except you, and kawasaki....

read what they have to say about the bike, then go back and read your silly ass posts and you might catch it...

and pease plese tell me scotty, exactly what "concept" is it I cant grasp because I have a funny feeling I knew more about road racing bikes when I was 14 than you know now?


from kawasakis website...

Welcome to the leading edge of power, performance and exhilaration. Kawasaki is passionate about motorcycles. It’s who we are, and what we do!

Ninja®ZX™-14
If high-performance sportbikes are your passion, then we’ve got just the street-carver for you. Introducing, the new Ninja ZX-14, our most powerful sportbike ever at 1,352cc.

The blending of form, power, and handling characteristics deliver a debut motorcycle that is so balanced in all aspects, the word “ultimate” barely seems adequate when describing it.

This all new in-line four has evolved from the ZX-12R and features a bore and stroke of 84mm x 61mm packed into a purposefully designed compact package that minimizes engine width, leaving it at virtually the same width as the 12R.

The engine uses a secondary balancer to tame unwanted vibrations, and a direct-actuation shift lever is lighter than conventional linkage-type set-ups, offering a more direct feel for the rider.

The ZX-14’s chassis design is every bit the equal of its power plant. It is an advanced version of Kawasaki’s unique aluminum monocoque frame -- lightweight and very strong.

Offering a very relaxed sport riding position, it is compact without being cramped. The foot pegs are low-set to give ample leg room, and the low seat height and narrow seat front make planting feet on the ground a cinch when stopped. Available Spring 2006.


now you are free to add whatever delusional coment you so desire....

but when it comes to road racing, leave it to the people that have been there and done it.....

Damn it Twisted ... you have really twisted the fuck out it so far that YOU don't even know what we're talking about anymore.

All the way back from page 2 ... then you got off on about 5 tangents and twisted everything up like some super squirrel on a nut binge.    I don't know why you love quoting Kawasaki's website so much ... shit, you'll brainwash youself and end up buying one when they showup at the dealers.

nothing will help the 14 against a gixxer, why do you think they gave a bike to a straight line guy and not the editors of the U.K magazines? why do you think they haven't released the wheelbase and weight numbers?

because they are trying to hype it up with a straight line number in a 1/4 mile then drop the bomb on you after they catch your attention...

As usual, the lack of logic and knowledge shows.  The ZX-14 isn't in the same class as an R1 or GSX-R1000.  It's in the same class as the Hayabusa ... a big sport touring bike.  The Hayabusa is one of the best platforms for a drag bike ... and so will be the ZX-14.  It will probably handle the backroads just as well too.  Kawasaki is going after the Hayabusa's market ... anyone who knows anything about bikes should realize that.

I wish Rickey had the nuts to take that piece of shit to a road course, I would pack up the gixxer right now and meet him there personally just to show him what a fucking pig that thing REALLY is....

Seems you think the ZX-14 should be out on a road course racing a liter bike ... I thought YOU said they weren't in the same class.  If you say/think that, then why do you make it sound like they are?  Get off the hallucinogenic nuts dude! 

Oh for crying out loud twisted... isn't there a soap opera somewhere missing a scriptwriter?

Somebody pass him a tampon.

How about a case of extra absorbant. 

scotty, it dont matter what I am talking about, you have lost me in the rhetoric, the 14 is junk, end of story....

next

[Twisted]

Let them have thier four months, we had six years. 

 Either way the highways will be a little more interesting now. 

yea no doubt about that, cuz the fucking twisties are still owned... 

[Busa@11K]

dumbass, I am not the one that said the 14 and gixxer were in the same class, you are the one that said I said that, I never did say that, I said if someone wanted to bring the 14 to a track I would pack up my gixxer right now and meet them there so I could show them what a pig the 14 really is....

go on and on and on and on about the fact they are not in the same class, who gives a fuck, no one says they are except you, and kawasaki....

read what they have to say about the bike, then go back and read your silly ass posts and you might catch it...

and pease plese tell me scotty, exactly what "concept" is it I cant grasp because I have a funny feeling I knew more about road racing bikes when I was 14 than you know now?


from kawasakis website...

Welcome to the leading edge of power, performance and exhilaration. Kawasaki is passionate about motorcycles. It’s who we are, and what we do!

Ninja®ZX™-14
If high-performance sportbikes are your passion, then we’ve got just the street-carver for you. Introducing, the new Ninja ZX-14, our most powerful sportbike ever at 1,352cc.

The blending of form, power, and handling characteristics deliver a debut motorcycle that is so balanced in all aspects, the word “ultimate” barely seems adequate when describing it.

This all new in-line four has evolved from the ZX-12R and features a bore and stroke of 84mm x 61mm packed into a purposefully designed compact package that minimizes engine width, leaving it at virtually the same width as the 12R.

The engine uses a secondary balancer to tame unwanted vibrations, and a direct-actuation shift lever is lighter than conventional linkage-type set-ups, offering a more direct feel for the rider.

The ZX-14’s chassis design is every bit the equal of its power plant. It is an advanced version of Kawasaki’s unique aluminum monocoque frame -- lightweight and very strong.

Offering a very relaxed sport riding position, it is compact without being cramped. The foot pegs are low-set to give ample leg room, and the low seat height and narrow seat front make planting feet on the ground a cinch when stopped. Available Spring 2006.


now you are free to add whatever delusional coment you so desire....

but when it comes to road racing, leave it to the people that have been there and done it.....

Damn it Twisted ... you have really twisted the fuck out it so far that YOU don't even know what we're talking about anymore.

All the way back from page 2 ... then you got off on about 5 tangents and twisted everything up like some super squirrel on a nut binge.    I don't know why you love quoting Kawasaki's website so much ... shit, you'll brainwash youself and end up buying one when they showup at the dealers.

nothing will help the 14 against a gixxer, why do you think they gave a bike to a straight line guy and not the editors of the U.K magazines? why do you think they haven't released the wheelbase and weight numbers?

because they are trying to hype it up with a straight line number in a 1/4 mile then drop the bomb on you after they catch your attention...

As usual, the lack of logic and knowledge shows.  The ZX-14 isn't in the same class as an R1 or GSX-R1000.  It's in the same class as the Hayabusa ... a big sport touring bike.  The Hayabusa is one of the best platforms for a drag bike ... and so will be the ZX-14.  It will probably handle the backroads just as well too.  Kawasaki is going after the Hayabusa's market ... anyone who knows anything about bikes should realize that.

I wish Rickey had the nuts to take that piece of shit to a road course, I would pack up the gixxer right now and meet him there personally just to show him what a fucking pig that thing REALLY is....

Seems you think the ZX-14 should be out on a road course racing a liter bike ... I thought YOU said they weren't in the same class.  If you say/think that, then why do you make it sound like they are?  Get off the hallucinogenic nuts dude! 

Oh for crying out loud twisted... isn't there a soap opera somewhere missing a scriptwriter?

Somebody pass him a tampon.

How about a case of extra absorbant. 

scotty, it dont matter what I am talking about, you have lost me in the rhetoric, the 14 is junk, end of story....

next

... I think you finally got it !!  I wasn't "defending" the ZX-14 if that's what you're thinking.  Light up another bowel and re-read some of this shit ... it might sink in.

You keep talking about racing the ZX-14 in the twisties with your 1000 .... must be because they are in the same class.  

[Busa@11K]

  Light up another bowel

Okay,  that was funny! Stop it, please!!

And that wasn't a misprint ... bowel is so fitting with "Mr. Shit Spewer". 

Just imagine him lighting up a big old turd with a Bic lighter set on high.

[xpigrider]

Glad I have the title to my bike!  They can do what they want to do!  No matter what you buy there is alway going to be something out there better. Suz's and Kaw's are both good bikes. 

This is like the Radar and the Radar Detector, Peterbilt and Kenworth game (both were made by the same company)! 

Suz and Kaw are the one that make money by us constantly trying to out do each other.  It's a racket!!

Just me two cents!

The next bike I buy will be a $30 to $40 bar hopping (just a figure of speech) custom.

[•Khandy•Rhed•Bhusa•]

Well its about time something in the market has cought up and the difference is not too significant.  Its the rider who will decide whats faster on the street or drag.  Not alot of us can ride the strip like those jockies to see a real difference. Also we have what, the biggest aftermarket?  Hell if you are worried about the 14 then just pick and choose your power accessories and be done with it.

When exactly should we expect anything from Suzuki regarding a new Hayabusa? This year?  Think about it, if kAWi did not release this bike, we would have the same bike till what 2010? Change is good. I think the reason why the 06 Limited is 'Special' bike making it 2 toned, is because its the last year for that design. Why else would they break the tradition of solid color LEs? That is a hint right there.

kAWi gets a cookie for beating our 7yr old bike.  And its not even that bad but guys we ride the LEGEND. And we all know LEGENDs never die....