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Offline Jimzu

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Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« on: August 30, 2006, 11:58:57 AM »
Everything was fine until putting HD springs in. Exotic Cycle slave support bracket on too. Pull clutch, whiney rattle on left side, shift into gear, bike dies. I don't even release clutch lever. I tried with all HD springs, and with half HD half stock. What's the culprit? Something break? Ideas? WTF?
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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2006, 12:53:32 PM »
when installing the slave support bracket.  did you have to remove the push rod?  and if you did, did you hit the clutch with no push rod inplace?
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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2006, 01:12:22 PM »
Quote from: RedBusa04 on August 30, 2006, 12:53:32 PM
when installing the slave support bracket. did you have to remove the push rod? and if you did, did you hit the clutch with no push rod inplace?

I did not have to remove the pushrod. I installed the slave support while the stock springs were in the clutch. Simply removed two allen bolts, placed support over top, replaced with two new longer allen bolts. That's it.

The bolts I replaced the stock spring bolts with are about 1/8 inch longer. They tighten all the way down, and look like the others. If they are a couple threads too long, could that be causing this issue?
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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2006, 01:27:23 PM »
the hd springs are longer. thats how were as well.

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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2006, 03:11:27 PM »
I know they are longer. But would an extra 1-2 threads cause this issue? By possibly not allowing the clutch to disengage completely? Not sure...
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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2006, 12:40:51 AM »
My slave support came with a shorter clutch rod.........
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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2006, 03:56:01 PM »
Quote from: PhantomBusa on August 31, 2006, 12:40:51 AM
My slave support came with a shorter clutch rod.........

Do you have the Exotic Cycle support?
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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2006, 06:15:44 PM »
No I dont.  But I thought all slave supports had a different clutch rod.  I could be wrong...
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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2006, 02:35:30 PM »
Okay, I found the culprit. When tightening down the springs, the seats snapped off, allowing the basket to free-float. What a POS... See pic. Where can I get one of these QUICK? Does a dealer carry them?

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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2006, 03:10:46 PM »
i doubt a suzuki dealer would have that in stock.
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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2006, 04:16:57 PM »
Dealer says one week!!! My bike is down over the damn holiday now... Anyone got an extra Busa laying around, you can pull this outer pressure disk, Fed Ex it to me, and I'll PayPal you immediately? Help???
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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2006, 09:04:42 PM »
Called Schnitz, APE, Brocks, etc. No one has the damn bolts. So I bought a set of 40 lb springs from Schnitz. They came in and are definitely softer than the ones I have. So I now think that confirms they are the 60 lb springs. So I'll attempt to install the 40 lb springs when the new outer pressure disk comes... Always something... oh, and no Oceala...
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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2006, 08:30:56 AM »
Jim
Saw your bike down at Brians, looks good!

How in the heck did the outter pressure plate break like that!   :bah:
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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2006, 09:22:40 AM »
Did you also install spacer washers above or below the springs? If you did the clutch springs coil bound and put HEAVY pressure on the hub. Check that the springsdo not coil bind when you install the new ones. Shorter bolts would cause the same condition. Just install a couple of springs opposite each other and try the clutch with the cover still removed you can look an tell if the springs are binding, then remove those and try a couple of others until you have verified all the spring do not bind. Then you can install and go for a ride.
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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2006, 08:41:08 PM »
Quote from: EXTREMEFUN1300 on September 30, 2006, 08:30:56 AM
Jim
Saw your bike down at Brians, looks good!

How in the heck did the outter pressure plate break like that! :bah:

Thanks. It looks even better with the fairings on it... :wink: 

Well, I broke two of them... I think it was because I was trying to use 3 bolts that were slightly longer, by about 2-3 threads, because compressing the springs was impossible. So I bought the Schnitz 40 lb springs, I re-used the stock bolts, and all is good again...

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Re: Clutch Spring Install Problem - Question
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2006, 08:42:48 PM »
Quote from: sidebusa on October 01, 2006, 09:22:40 AM
Did you also install spacer washers above or below the springs? If you did the clutch springs coil bound and put HEAVY pressure on the hub. Check that the springsdo not coil bind when you install the new ones. Shorter bolts would cause the same condition. Just install a couple of springs opposite each other and try the clutch with the cover still removed you can look an tell if the springs are binding, then remove those and try a couple of others until you have verified all the spring do not bind. Then you can install and go for a ride.

I did not use any washers. I thought originally they coil bound. That's why I tried it for a second time being very careful, tightening and torquing properly. But it was not due to that. Thanks.
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