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Solenoid placement, where is best?
« on: October 08, 2006, 06:23:18 PM »
Is it better to place the solenoid (for dry kit) as close to the fogger as possible with as short a line as you can? Will engine heat cause problems for the solenoid? Or is it better to have the solenoid at the rear of the bike closer to the bottle? I realize if it's close to the airbox the line going from the bottle to the front is going to be a tad long but I guess a purge kit would fix that, no? I'm looking for a more responsive hit  :twisted:
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2006, 07:27:58 PM »
the closer to the nozzle the quicker the hit,heat can be a problem for the solinoid

i had my solinoid in the trunck,the hit is pretty slow,a few weeks ago i moved it forward about 18'' just behind the enguine compartment,between the shock and the frame,the hit is a little quicker and the solinoid stays cool
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2006, 09:26:51 AM »
Quote from: chevelle on October 08, 2006, 07:27:58 PM
the closer to the nozzle the quicker the hit,heat can be a problem for the solinoid

i had my solinoid in the trunck,the hit is pretty slow,a few weeks ago i moved it forward about 18'' just behind the enguine compartment,between the shock and the frame,the hit is a little quicker and the solinoid stays cool

Good idea, maybe I'll try that :wink:
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2006, 06:06:50 PM »
I am going to mount mine right on a pressure regulator.There should be no need to purge then.right next to the bottle.
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2006, 06:15:16 PM »
Good idea Dan.   8)
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2006, 11:19:58 AM »
I'm like Tom,
but mine was at 194hp before the 42 jet, so I needed it to come in softer at stock length.
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2006, 01:41:25 PM »
Just part of the life.................... :wink:
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2006, 04:26:23 PM »
you guys have it rough   :wink:

i just broke down and ordered that fancy 90 degree 3 an swivel,to run a single line
i picked up the plate,and a 2 ft 3 an line,earlier this summer,with the solinoid moved forward (near the shock) it should just make it,that will cut line length nearly in half again,should hit a little quicker

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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2006, 05:34:21 PM »
Quote from: nomrlz on October 12, 2006, 05:08:01 PM
changing the fuel system on the race car was a major purchase.  those damn fittings can start racking up the bill   :bah: :bah:

tell me about it,i had a small fortune in the chevelle,2 rear mounted external pumps,motor/nitrous and all braided front to back,almost broke me
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2006, 06:19:26 PM »
Quote from: chevelle on October 12, 2006, 04:26:23 PM
you guys have it rough   :wink:

i just broke down and ordered that fancy 90 degree 3 an swivel,to run a single line
i picked up the plate,and a 2 ft 3 an line,earlier this summer,with the solinoid moved forward (near the shock) it should just make it,that will cut line length nearly in half again,should hit a little quicker


Are you running a purge?
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2006, 06:51:19 PM »
no,i don't use a purge on either bike
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2006, 07:04:49 PM »
Quote from: chevelle on October 12, 2006, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: nomrlz on October 12, 2006, 05:08:01 PM
changing the fuel system on the race car was a major purchase.  those damn fittings can start racking up the bill   :bah: :bah:

tell me about it,i had a small fortune in the chevelle,2 rear mounted external pumps,motor/nitrous and all braided front to back,almost broke me

Now I have another regulator and a plate plumbed that's not shown in this picture.
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2006, 07:43:30 PM »
very nice  :thumb:  bet that gets your attention at full boil !
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2006, 05:03:42 PM »
Nozzle mounted to the Solenoid,Mount Solenoid to air Box Lid,Remove Air Box temp senser and place it Between # 2-3 Velocity Stacks and Plug the Old Hole.
Bend Down Solenoid Mounting Bracket to about 45Deg, Use - 3 line From Bottle to Solenoid and use a Smaller Jet,Just a Thought. :thumb: :thumb:
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2006, 05:49:23 PM »
Quote from: turbo1320 on October 15, 2006, 05:03:42 PM
Nozzle mounted to the Solenoid,Mount Solenoid to air Box Lid,Remove Air Box temp senser and place it Between # 2-3 Velocity Stacks and Plug the Old Hole.
Bend Down Solenoid Mounting Bracket to about 45Deg, Use - 3 line From Bottle to Solenoid and use a Smaller Jet,Just a Thought. :thumb: :thumb:

i understand mounting the solinoid to the nozzle (instant hit)

but i am having trouble following where/how you mounted the whole thing

pics would be great
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2006, 07:11:37 PM »
I cant send Photos from Here,But Mount the Solenoid to the Air Box Lid then Bend Down the Mounting Tab so the Nozzle sprays into the the roof above the Velocity stacks. You place the The Nozzle as close as you can to the Velocity stacks and still get good coverage of all the Velocity stacks.
And use a smaller Jet.Burt :thumb:
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2006, 05:34:52 AM »
Quote from: nomrlz on October 15, 2006, 08:17:21 PM
Quote from: turbo1320 on October 15, 2006, 07:11:37 PM
Mount the Solenoid to the Air Box Lid then Bend Down the Mounting Tab so the Nozzle sprays into the the roof above the Velocity stacks.

the two stacks below the stacks won't get more nitrous   :?

Sorry I dont understand what you mean about the stacks?,Burt
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2006, 07:24:45 AM »
He's saying that you'll feed the 2 in the center cylinders better than the outside 2................I think?
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2006, 09:56:51 AM »
Quote from: turbo1320 on October 15, 2006, 05:03:42 PM
Nozzle mounted to the Solenoid,Mount Solenoid to air Box Lid,Remove Air Box temp senser and place it Between # 2-3 Velocity Stacks and Plug the Old Hole.
Bend Down Solenoid Mounting Bracket to about 45Deg, Use - 3 line From Bottle to Solenoid and use a Smaller Jet,Just a Thought. :thumb: :thumb:

Won't the solenoid get too hot as it's so close to the engine??
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2006, 11:09:37 PM »
Quote from: nomrlz on October 16, 2006, 09:13:50 AM
Quote from: SLEEPERBUSA on October 16, 2006, 07:24:45 AM
He's saying that you'll feed the 2 in the center cylinders better than the outside 2................I think?

zactly, i meant the two stacks below the nozzle.  i would understand one nozzle mounted above each stack through the lid.  each nozzle would have a very small jet so each cylinder gets about 15hp.  chris coupe had one nozzle shooting the stacks and ended up with a new 1397.



Sorry now I under stand what you mean.I dont Know about all Nozzles But our Nozzle If moved to the front of the Air box lid and when mounted up side Down with the Nozzle attached then I bend the Solenoid mounting tab so the Nozzle sprays into the Roof of the air Box and it will cover all 4 Velocity stacks.

I do have a Y fitting that will attach to the Solenoid with two Nozzles and with this set up you can move the Solenoid closer the Velocity stacks.

But I would always Bench test your set up off the Bike ,Hook it up with the Air Box off and spray and see How it comes out the 4 Velocity stacks,Burt :thumb:
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2006, 11:29:55 PM »
Quote from: Hybrid on October 16, 2006, 09:56:51 AM
Quote from: turbo1320 on October 15, 2006, 05:03:42 PM
Nozzle mounted to the Solenoid,Mount Solenoid to air Box Lid,Remove Air Box temp senser and place it Between # 2-3 Velocity Stacks and Plug the Old Hole.
Bend Down Solenoid Mounting Bracket to about 45Deg, Use - 3 line From Bottle to Solenoid and use a Smaller Jet,Just a Thought. :thumb: :thumb:

Won't the solenoid get too hot as it's so close to the engine??

Sure there is always Heat But we never Have a Problem with our Solenoids Because ours are Machined out of Billet Aluminum and Realy  how much heat is in your air Box?
But if your Solenoid is getting hot in the air Box then I would get a Better Solenoid to handle the heat,Burt :thumb:
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2006, 11:47:12 AM »
yes sir I do,And Things are starting to take off and we are getting good Results .
174HP and 100TQ NA to 420HP and 302TQ witha 1298 Motor running 10.5.1 A/F It needs more tunning but we are getting there.
OUTLAW Bike with My set up Off the Trailer ran a 121 60FT and 5.11 at145 MPH with a soft setting  and he was going for the Wall so he lifted way before the 1/8,Burt :thumb:
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2006, 03:40:57 PM »
yeah,We need a 4.70s at 165MPH in the 1/8 do get it Done.I have the Guys at PRO-1 helping the guy out so I think we are on to something Big if we just can Drive it out the Back Door and Keep it togeather,Burt
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2006, 05:49:55 PM »
Let's see pics of this setup already  :thumb:
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Re: Solenoid placement, where is best?
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2006, 08:47:55 PM »
Sorry no photos of the Dry shot set up only the Other set ups,Burt :thumb:
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