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186 stock motor busa
« on: October 29, 2006, 07:22:45 PM »
Congradulations Speedninja on the 186 you did on the stock motor Busa, you ran over that zx-14!
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2006, 07:31:39 PM »
Was that on a limited busa? 186 is the cut off ya know.

Did Chris run the 10?
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2006, 07:43:40 PM »
Quote from: ZX-ALAN on October 29, 2006, 07:31:39 PM
Was that on a limited busa? 186 is the cut off ya know.

Did Chris run the 10?
TRE, didn't take the 10.
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2006, 07:55:38 PM »
Thanks for all the help Tom and the haul. Always a great time. Hopefully we can always do this stuff, even at Dannys age. it was great to meet Rustman, the "living" legend, and Carl. What a ride Carl! Everyone is always great at this event and always wanting to lend a hand. "southern hospitality" I guess. Peace
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2006, 07:57:31 PM »
The old man did awesome running 179! What a Rockstar
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2006, 08:12:38 PM »
Congrats speedninja just wish your first spray pass would not have been fuxed up by a dam butterfly.. :P
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2006, 08:18:51 PM »
Quote from: tricktom1 on October 29, 2006, 07:57:31 PM
The old man did awesome running 179! What a Rockstar

Danny and I are kindred spirits.  I admire that guy.  Fun to hang around with, great attitude, and he goes for it.  I don't think he'll mind if I say he's 57.  I'm planning to be the same when I'm 57 and 67 and on.  I have a little work to do before I get there though, but he makes a good role model for us aspiring adrenaline junkies.   :thumb:
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2006, 08:21:12 PM »
Oh, I forgot to say kick ass Chris!  March is going to be even better.  I'll see you all there then.
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2006, 08:21:30 PM »

T-Bone and The Rockstar
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2006, 08:23:00 PM »
Great talking to you Russ. Hope we can all make it back next year.
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2006, 08:36:46 PM »
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2006, 09:44:07 PM »
If you didn't post it, I would have.   :lol:
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2006, 05:42:56 AM »
Danny is a nut, there's no telling what's going to come out of his mouth at any time. I was also impressed with the man that was in his late 60s(guess) riding the zx-12 running high 190s :thumb:, hope I'm still able at that age!
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2006, 06:07:33 AM »
What did Entropy(Karl) run on the green ZX12?  It was extended about 8" and had black marvics on it.  He is in his late 50's early 60's.
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2006, 06:12:25 AM »
he had some trouble also, he asked where you were at though.
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2006, 07:27:07 AM »
Quote from: tricktom1 on October 29, 2006, 07:22:45 PM
Congradulations Speedninja on the 186 you did on the stock motor Busa, you ran over that zx-14!

Tell us about that 14 ... slow was it ?
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2006, 09:23:18 AM »
The 14 with the flame job was runing 183s if I remember right and I know he shot a 20 shot of Nos and ran his best of the 2 days a 191... Tehre is a pic of it ..  but there was like 3 other ones there and thoses all ran slow...
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2006, 03:57:20 PM »
In my opinion, and I am a Kawi guy, the 14s are all hype. :roll: They don't run good mph. Don't know if it is the bike, operator, or tune up but I am not impressed. I was really close to wasting my money on one a couple of months ago.
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2006, 04:01:48 PM »
Quote from: speedninja on October 30, 2006, 03:57:20 PM
In my opinion, and I am a Kawi guy, the 14s are all hype. :roll: They don't run good mph. Don't know if it is the bike, operator, or tune up but I am not impressed. I was really close to wasting my money on one a couple of months ago.

what made you change your mind?
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2006, 05:02:50 PM »
I rememer the skarewin I took on the zx10 they pumped up for months. The newer ones are very nice but 04-05 were overated, just like the 14!
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2006, 05:47:39 PM »
Glad to see you guys had a lot of fun. Sure wish that we could have been there but we had to go to the Texas Shootout to get some points. Didn't have a great day but Jenn managed to get enough points in the Street ET to finish second for the year. We hope to be back at the Texas Mile next year and join that 200 MPH Club.

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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2006, 06:10:21 PM »
2nd is good ! Will see you at the mile next year Rog
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2006, 02:47:20 PM »
Quote from: speedninja on October 30, 2006, 05:02:50 PM
I rememer the skarewin I took on the zx10 they pumped up for months. The newer ones are very nice but 04-05 were overated, just like the 14!
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2006, 05:23:37 PM »
I ran a buddy who has a zx14, I'm on the 12.  Both of us have muzzy pipes, filter, pc3.  I have short stacks, he doesn't.  I'm unrestricted, he is still restricted.  I have a race front upper, he has the stocker w/mirrors.  He has the butterfly or whatever removed.

He weighs maybe 190 vs my 120 no gear.

I was in 2nd, he was in 1st, roll on from maybe 60????  I had 18/44 gearing instead of stock 18/46 with a taller tire that adds 3-4 mph more top speed.

He jumped out (obviously) 3 bikes or so, shifts into 2nd, another minor wheelie but he didn't have to back out of it.  By the time I click 3rd we lock up.  4th I reel him in and by the end of 4th I am passing him a few mph faster.  5th put some distance on him for sure. 

Either way you look at it, the 14 is pretty torquey but the 12 still has steam up top.  Hell ask any Busa guy who's run a comparably equipped 12 up top.  The 12s pull hard.  No way I would buy a 14.  Truth be told I hate Busas and I would rather own a Busa over a 14.

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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2006, 06:09:01 PM »
Quote from: shiphteeey on December 28, 2006, 05:23:37 PM
Truth be told I hate Busas and I would rather own a Busa over a 14.

As a Harley owner I can sympathise with you.
If I had a 12............ I'd hate Busa's too!  :rfl:
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2006, 06:44:01 PM »
 :rfl: :rfl: :rfl: :duh:  Thats funny
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2006, 07:57:40 PM »
Guess I walked into that one  :lol:
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2006, 08:08:26 AM »
Quote from: speedninja on October 30, 2006, 03:57:20 PM
In my opinion, and I am a Kawi guy, the 14s are all hype. :roll: They don't run good mph. Don't know if it is the bike, operator, or tune up but I am not impressed. I was really close to wasting my money on one a couple of months ago.
Yup my stock motored zx14 will not mph.. :roll: ....  8.95 @ 153.60 1/4 mile   and Brocks stock motored  zx14 sucked at maxton and only ran 200 mph..... :shock: Come on man it's not the bike it's the rider...
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2006, 08:34:24 AM »
Quote from: shiphteeey on December 28, 2006, 05:23:37 PM
I ran a buddy who has a zx14, I'm on the 12.  Both of us have muzzy pipes, filter, pc3.  I have short stacks, he doesn't.  I'm unrestricted, he is still restricted.  I have a race front upper, he has the stocker w/mirrors.  He has the butterfly or whatever removed.

He weighs maybe 190 vs my 120 no gear.

I was in 2nd, he was in 1st, roll on from maybe 60????  I had 18/44 gearing instead of stock 18/46 with a taller tire that adds 3-4 mph more top speed.

He jumped out (obviously) 3 bikes or so, shifts into 2nd, another minor wheelie but he didn't have to back out of it.  By the time I click 3rd we lock up.  4th I reel him in and by the end of 4th I am passing him a few mph faster.  5th put some distance on him for sure. 

Either way you look at it, the 14 is pretty torquey but the 12 still has steam up top.  Hell ask any Busa guy who's run a comparably equipped 12 up top.  The 12s pull hard.  No way I would buy a 14.  Truth be told I hate Busas and I would rather own a Busa over a 14.

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Come on .... your sig said 6.3s @ 118 mph  and you only weigh 120 ?? Hell man my zx14 stock wheel base on pumps gas ran 5.9s @ 125 mph  and i out weigh you by 30+ pounds .... It's very clear to me that you are a good rider and the guy on the zx14 was not, plus the  70 pounds different between you and him... We all know rider makes all the difference.....You should also note the Muzzy pipe is down  7 to 8  hp Vs the brocks pipe and map ... I tested this with my zx14 ..Muzzy pipe and map was 147 mph in the 1/4 mile and Brocks pipe and map was 153.60 in the 1/4 mile ..
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2006, 09:38:44 AM »
Quote from: 1300hemibusa on December 29, 2006, 08:34:24 AM
You should also note the Muzzy pipe is down  7 to 8  hp Vs the brocks pipe and map ... I tested this with my zx14 ..Muzzy pipe and map was 147 mph in the 1/4 mile and Brocks pipe and map was 153.60 in the 1/4 mile ..
I'm going to call John and tell him to buy a Brock pipe (and that he's not as good a rider as you A)! :rfl:
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2006, 10:56:04 AM »
ALi,

Sorry...all of the 14's I have dyno'd made 185rwhp/110 ft lbs with just pipe/PCUSB and pump gas....

No 12 with the same mods will touch that....obviously your weight and riding are the biggest factors....

Deb,

Go back to work....lol

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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2006, 11:11:41 AM »
Quote from: DaveO on December 29, 2006, 10:56:04 AM
Deb,

Go back to work....lol

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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2006, 05:34:15 PM »
1300hemi:  You also have to realize that I'm losing a touch of ET with BONNEVILLE 18/44 gearing!  I don't think I have yet run anything quicker than stock, maybe -1 once. 

Also, I'm horribly rich for the nitrous and have 3 degrees taken out.  I'm sure 1-2 mph is in it from a better state of tune.  Maybe another 1/10 from better gearing.  And I'm no pro launching.  Mainly 1.7s...have hit some 1.6s. 

Dave:  The day will come when a Kawasaki will overthrow that Busa of yours....just you wait!

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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2006, 05:54:14 PM »
Ali,

The 14 is a more powerful bike than the Busa with just bolt on mods....period. We proved it at Maxton with Brock's...and proved it again at Gville when Chip Ellis went 9.08 on it after I rode it to the pad....UNCHANGED from Maxton'sw setup.

It's going to be a while..IMO before ANYONE releases a production 240rwhp bike to make mine obsolete...

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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2006, 09:46:02 PM »
Quote from: DaveO on December 29, 2006, 05:54:14 PM
It's going to be a while..IMO before ANYONE releases a production 240rwhp bike to make mine obsolete...
Yeah, but that Copper.... it's so yesterday   :ll:
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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2006, 07:49:06 PM »
Quote from: DaveO on December 29, 2006, 05:54:14 PM
Ali,

The 14 is a more powerful bike than the Busa with just bolt on mods....period. We proved it at Maxton with Brock's...and proved it again at Gville when Chip Ellis went 9.08 on it after I rode it to the pad....UNCHANGED from Maxton'sw setup.

It's going to be a while..IMO before ANYONE releases a production 240rwhp bike to make mine obsolete...

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I beg to differ Dave...  :lol:

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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2006, 07:55:46 PM »
Guess I stand corrected....or need to get 5 mph somewhere....LOL

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Re: 186 stock motor busa
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2006, 09:06:22 PM »
Quote from: DaveO on December 30, 2006, 07:55:46 PM
Guess I stand corrected....or need to get 5 mph somewhere....LOL

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