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Still not starting
« on: July 02, 2013, 01:00:01 PM »
Gen I Busa cranking but won't kick over.   Replaced the battery.  Clutch switch good and so is the kick stand switch. Read code off ecu and gauge says C00. Out of ideas

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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2013, 04:31:15 PM »
do you have any add on devices, powercommander , alarm ???
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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2013, 04:58:56 PM »
Just a TRE...tried starting my bike without it.  But not sure if there was something I need to do once I disconnected it.

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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2013, 05:22:37 PM »
no just remove it and plug the original connectors together again ,
is the tach moving as you crank
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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2013, 05:31:10 PM »
It does but only goes half way between zero and one thousand rpm

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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2013, 05:34:38 PM »
Lets start with the basics... establish that you have spark and fuel, one of those is missing.  I think compression should be a given, you did not mention any difference in cranking.  Just because you hear the pump run does not ensure you have fuel and pressure.
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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2013, 05:48:37 PM »
I pulled every plug one at a time to check for spark. Each one was wet and I got spit at every time I cranked. The crank was steady. No change in sound, doesn't even try to fire.  How else can I test for fuel?

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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2013, 08:24:20 PM »
ok tach and spark and COO confirm the electrics are least likely cause,
throw a few cc, like a coke bottle lid full of fuel in each throttlebody then crank and see if it trys to fire
i would guess like Stainless , you have a fuel pressure problem
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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2013, 08:59:17 PM »
Do you hear the fuel pump running when you turn the key on? It should run for about a second or two and then shut off it you don't crank the engine.
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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2013, 09:14:07 PM »
I hear it prime everytime.

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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2013, 12:50:27 PM »
you never did say if you had spark or not? make sure you use the plugs that are in the bike as they may be the suspect also
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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2013, 02:59:22 PM »
When I check the plugs I had good spark.

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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2013, 05:37:49 PM »
so you have fuel on the plugs and spark. its not backfiring or anything like that when you crank?
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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2013, 08:39:12 PM »
Nothing.  It just cranks and cranks.  I once tried to push start it and it just wound down.  Even tried to give it gas and there was no change.  I wish it would back fire.

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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2013, 08:55:23 PM »
compression test
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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2013, 09:51:32 PM »
I will try and let you know

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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2013, 11:51:49 PM »
compression is easy, hold your hand over the hole in the cover, if it blows off you have enough.  Check all of them. 
Did you pour a little gas in the TB yet
it only takes gas, spark and compression
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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2013, 12:09:20 AM »
The spark side pushes up pretty good,  and the TB side sucks hard.  I will try to put fuel down the TB and see.

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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2013, 06:51:26 AM »
Check the wire for the anti theft up near the ignition switch. Mine had a broken wire and wouldn't run but would spark.

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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2013, 01:38:47 PM »
I just went through my wires and didn't find anything.  I did notice that my RPMs are not moving during me trying to start the bike.  What does that mean?

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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2013, 11:52:59 AM »
Usually a sign the crank pickup is not working.

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Re: Still not starting
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2013, 07:10:23 PM »
Bike is running.  Gave up and took bike to shop.  Guy readjusted my throttle and replaced my air inlet sensor.  I do have a rattling sound in the head.  Let you know how that goes.  Thanks guys for your help.